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those are your two foreign policy experts? those are your two foreign policy speeches? ten years out there was a major effort under way right now to make the war in iraq seem like it was a reasonable idea at the time. to make it seem like we were all in it together in making this unfortunate mistake when we made the decision to go in. actually, ten years ago today, you want to know what was happening around the world? in 600 cities around the world, including dozens of cities here in the united states there were mass street protests against it. not everybody was wrong about this. we didn't all blunder into this together because we all believed what that lousy intelligence turned up. it didn't go that way. there was a deliberate campaign to deceive the public, and it succeeded well enough to start a war based on threats and stories and evidence that were not true. and if the revisionism that we are experiencing right now ten years later is able to succeed then we are doomed to repeat this again as a country some day if we do not come to terms with what happened and how i
those are your two foreign policy experts? those are your two foreign policy speeches? ten years out there was a major effort under way right now to make the war in iraq seem like it was a reasonable idea at the time. to make it seem like we were all in it together in making this unfortunate mistake when we made the decision to go in. actually, ten years ago today, you want to know what was happening around the world? in 600 cities around the world, including dozens of cities here in the united...
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troop surge in iraq raises some serious questions about his judgment on foreign policy. >> you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the answers to his questions but i have grave concerns. >> grave concerns? >> yes. >> would it be fair to say you're leaning against voting for him? >> i think that would be fair. >> both criticisms follow a blistering attack on saturday by former vice president dick cheney. the performance now of barack obama as he staffs up the national security team for a second term is dismal. frankly, what he has appointed are second rate people. >>> there's a new u.s. commander in afghanistan in what could be the final reshuffling of american leadership before coalition troops are withdrawn on schedule by the end of next year. general joseph dumford took over on saturday. a four star marine officer replaces general john allen. he's been nominated to lead nato forces in europe. general dunford will play a leading role in how many american troops will stay in that country post 2014. meanwhile, former de
troop surge in iraq raises some serious questions about his judgment on foreign policy. >> you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the answers to his questions but i have grave concerns. >> grave concerns? >> yes. >> would it be fair to say you're leaning against voting for him? >> i think that would be fair. >> both criticisms follow a blistering attack on saturday by former vice...
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we have republicans who are in a weird position on foreign policy and national security precisely because the president has been so aggressive. in a lot of ways there's not a lot of daylight between what republicans do in the same position as democrats. unless we're bipartisan, there is a lot of people in particular, chuck hagel as defense secretary nominee, and there has been some talk by some in the gop leadership that they will filibuster his nomination. john mccain saying he won't. what is your read on all that many. >> i think it will be a very interesting move to filibuster. it will be a drastic move. wron if you guys saw, but carl livin said he will hold a vote on the nomination tomorrow, so they are moving ahead with it. my hunch is that they won't because i think deep down inside republican senators believe that a president does deserve to choose his advisors, and i think it sets a bad press debt because one day there will be a republican in the white house again. maybe not, i guess. the venom from republican senators towards chuck hagel is pretty remarkable. this is not a fwi wh
we have republicans who are in a weird position on foreign policy and national security precisely because the president has been so aggressive. in a lot of ways there's not a lot of daylight between what republicans do in the same position as democrats. unless we're bipartisan, there is a lot of people in particular, chuck hagel as defense secretary nominee, and there has been some talk by some in the gop leadership that they will filibuster his nomination. john mccain saying he won't. what is...
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we've always known that there was chinese hacking as long as i've been covering foreign policy. we've talked about chinese hacking, but this really pinpoints the chinese military. you've zeroed in on a particular area in shanghai. tell me what the significance of that is. >> that's right, andrea. what makes it report different is rather than speculating these attacks might come from china, we've shown quite a bit of evidence that directs this to a pla unit 61398. we can say with definitive accuracy that the attacks were coming out of a single subnet or several subnet that is go back to that one neighborhood in shanghai. >> among the targets are companies involved in critical infrastructure entities, which we're talking about pipelines and water works and, you know, the electrical grid, nuclear power plants. >> almost no sector was spared. we saw everything from high-tech manufacturing to transportation, defense, but, you're right. a lot of the sectors that were targeted were part of the nation's critical infrastructure, and that gives us concern. >> as a former intelligence offi
we've always known that there was chinese hacking as long as i've been covering foreign policy. we've talked about chinese hacking, but this really pinpoints the chinese military. you've zeroed in on a particular area in shanghai. tell me what the significance of that is. >> that's right, andrea. what makes it report different is rather than speculating these attacks might come from china, we've shown quite a bit of evidence that directs this to a pla unit 61398. we can say with...
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they literally have not thought about social economic foreign policy with any depth for at least a decade. >> and won't play ball on it because it also -- >> they don't have any idea. they're bereft. >> i think they've thought about it, but they're convinced that just by trying to convince the rest of us, women, you're crazy. there's no war on women, right? by trying to convince us to believe their version of reality, which i guess at one point in time worked. bush got us into a war. we all thought he was telling the truth, right? what they're not realizing is people aren't buying it anymore. the themes that the president was talking about, you know, of course they laebled it as this aggressive president. pretty mainstream stuff, frankly, in the inaugural address. pretty mainstream stuff he is going to be talking about tonight in terms of where the country is and our values are. a majority of americans actually agree with the things that he is talking about. >> i don't know, karen. once you start establishing infrastructure banks, next thing you know you turn around and you are swedish. >
they literally have not thought about social economic foreign policy with any depth for at least a decade. >> and won't play ball on it because it also -- >> they don't have any idea. they're bereft. >> i think they've thought about it, but they're convinced that just by trying to convince the rest of us, women, you're crazy. there's no war on women, right? by trying to convince us to believe their version of reality, which i guess at one point in time worked. bush got us into...
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>> usually they have a foreign policy section and i think they'll add it. and, you know, usually they find a way to work in foreign policy and go in that section and it's -- you know, these speeches are, you know, the structure of them is done a long time in advance but they'll still being worked on until the last minute. >> absolutely. and also, we know through the latest developments today, the president will announce 34,000 troops leaving afghanistan, as well. another part of the puzzle if you will of us learning when's in that speech. what i'm curious about your opinion on, our first read team says there are three economic questions that the president will perhaps answer tonight. one of them is how can the united states create more jobs at home. when the speech outline is happening, are you guys talking about these are the questions people are asking at home. mr. president, this is how to answer. is it that kind of set-up? >> well, you know, usually you start out i think by, you know, the president and his speechwriters and advisers will get together an
>> usually they have a foreign policy section and i think they'll add it. and, you know, usually they find a way to work in foreign policy and go in that section and it's -- you know, these speeches are, you know, the structure of them is done a long time in advance but they'll still being worked on until the last minute. >> absolutely. and also, we know through the latest developments today, the president will announce 34,000 troops leaving afghanistan, as well. another part of the...
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guns, immigration and foreign policy. that includes north korea that gets a mention after they say they conducted a 30 nuclear test that president obama calls highly provocative. the state of the union is part substance and part atmospherics. >> mr. speaker! the president of the united states! every year the mood is reflected in the chamber itself. despite the focus of speech and the memory of newtown will loom. lawmakers are inviting guests from all sides of the gun debate from former congresswoman gabrielle giffords who was a surprise guest will attend this year with her husband as the guest of john mccain and her former aide, ron barber. they star in an ad that will air after the president's address tonight. then the parents of slain teenager who will be guests of the first lady as will lieutenant brian murphy who was struck by 15 bullets responding to the sikh temple shooting. newtown victims and first responders will be there including a teacher who was wounded and survived. and then folks representing the other side
guns, immigration and foreign policy. that includes north korea that gets a mention after they say they conducted a 30 nuclear test that president obama calls highly provocative. the state of the union is part substance and part atmospherics. >> mr. speaker! the president of the united states! every year the mood is reflected in the chamber itself. despite the focus of speech and the memory of newtown will loom. lawmakers are inviting guests from all sides of the gun debate from former...
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. >> i think what makes it so acute in this case is that it's happening in the context of foreign policy. here you have a defense secretary who's being filibustered, at the same time that there's a possibility filibuster as the cia director. i do think that ultimately, these political fights don't happen in a vacuum, all of the things that john harwood just said about the wind being at the president's back is going to end up meaning that he's going to get a deferment. >> and chuck hagel, if he's confirmed will attend a nato conference. and if not, panetta will have to step in there. >> and that's the pressure that's going to have to come to bear for the republicans, at the end of the day, this has real impact if the president doesn't have a confirmed secretary of defense. >> some of the republicans have tried to, i don't know if it's splitting hairs or if they're embarrassed by the use of the word filibuster, but they're attempting to describe this as something other than that. >> this is not a filibuster, i keep getting stopped by people out in the hall, oh, we're going to filibuster, w
. >> i think what makes it so acute in this case is that it's happening in the context of foreign policy. here you have a defense secretary who's being filibustered, at the same time that there's a possibility filibuster as the cia director. i do think that ultimately, these political fights don't happen in a vacuum, all of the things that john harwood just said about the wind being at the president's back is going to end up meaning that he's going to get a deferment. >> and chuck...
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policy. the next thing i wanted to say was the reason rubio's thing on the t.v. there went so viral and everybody watched it 1,000 times is because he acted like he was shoplifting the water from a convenience store. [ laughter ] stephanie: he did. i said it looked like winona ryder on the security camera the. hmm? total deer in the headlights. >> he was in part talking about how the c.i.a., against his wishes sent up another u.2 flight because he kruschev were to meet. the c.i. asacriad it up. stephanie: historical fun fact. and the fact i learned from that, the largest percentage of people that want to date me and kiss me, really straight, old drunk men. >> sure. stephanie: story of my life. >> if he was 40 years younger that would make him 90. stephanie: greg writes steph. >> if i was 40 years younger i'd remember where i left my cheese. >> i want to make sure you waited for me when i got back from the peliponesian war. the senate is waiting because they don't have all of hagel's financial
policy. the next thing i wanted to say was the reason rubio's thing on the t.v. there went so viral and everybody watched it 1,000 times is because he acted like he was shoplifting the water from a convenience store. [ laughter ] stephanie: he did. i said it looked like winona ryder on the security camera the. hmm? total deer in the headlights. >> he was in part talking about how the c.i.a., against his wishes sent up another u.2 flight because he kruschev were to meet. the c.i. asacriad...
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he told "foreign policy" magazine, quote, we need to know what the president's conversations were. i would vote no on cloture on thursday unless the information is provided. by tuesday -- actually by yesterday, which almost every day of the week he's changed his mind, the white house had responded to his satisfaction, but he still didn't vote for cloture. he still wouldn't vote to bring this matter of hagel's confirmation up to a vote, and here is his latest. let's watch. >> there are still questions outstanding. i believe that senators have the right to have those questions answered. the senator from south carolina and the senator from new hampshire and i had a response from the president today on the question that we had, but there are other questions. >> like can you give us a copy of every speech you ever gave? can you give us a dollar-for-dollar assessment of every dollar you ever made? by the way, if you don't tell us, we're going to accuse you of getting money from the north koreans. that's the way we will pay you. joy, you're younger than me i think by a lot of years. we're
he told "foreign policy" magazine, quote, we need to know what the president's conversations were. i would vote no on cloture on thursday unless the information is provided. by tuesday -- actually by yesterday, which almost every day of the week he's changed his mind, the white house had responded to his satisfaction, but he still didn't vote for cloture. he still wouldn't vote to bring this matter of hagel's confirmation up to a vote, and here is his latest. let's watch. >>...
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policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nomination, it's not about afghanistan, it's not about a draw john -- >> that's not true. >> in all fairness, what you just mentioned very parochial reasons by the republican party to make this into a dance because chuck hagel didn't like john mccain -- >> there are policy issues here, let's not forget. they did talk about his refusal to denounce hesbola as a terrorist organization. those are legitimate policy concerns which call into question his ability to lead the defense department. >> i want to move into another topic. one of your former boss be, mr. rove. it seems as if republicans are acting what's in their own interest, whether they like the rove project or don't like the rove project. if this works, this looks like this is going to be a very ugly public process in the short-term. is that fair? >> it looks like it's going to be ugly but karl rove has every right, just like the club for growth o
policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nomination, it's not about afghanistan, it's not about a draw john -- >> that's not true. >> in all fairness, what you just mentioned very parochial reasons by the republican party to make this into a dance because chuck hagel didn't like john mccain -- >> there are policy...
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you've covered foreign policy in washington for a long time. can you put this into some kind of perspective, historically? how rare is it for this to happen to a president's nominee? >> well, this is very rare. i mean, it's unprecedented. i covered the john tower nomination. he was the former chairman of the committee of the armed services committee. and that was also something that john mccain brought up yesterday. that's part of the grudge match. he wasn't filibustered because the administration just lost that one. but this filibuster with a recess permits the opposition to keep upping the ante. i mean, one of the things that you and joe are pointing out here is that every time chuck hagel turns a corner, they're flowing something else up there. benghazi wasn't even on his watch. they used it to try to get leverage. to try to get more information about what the president did on that night. did he go to bed? was he calling the pentagon? who was in charge? something that they could have asked in another context. they did get a letter from the w
you've covered foreign policy in washington for a long time. can you put this into some kind of perspective, historically? how rare is it for this to happen to a president's nominee? >> well, this is very rare. i mean, it's unprecedented. i covered the john tower nomination. he was the former chairman of the committee of the armed services committee. and that was also something that john mccain brought up yesterday. that's part of the grudge match. he wasn't filibustered because the...
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he tells "foreign policy magazine" my position right now is that i want an answer to the question. that question totally unrelated to chuck hagel as defense secretary is what president obama was doing during the benghazi attack. hagel remains in limbo, as does defense secretary leon panetta, who isn't exactly sure when he will be able to return to his california walnut groves. >> this is, i believe, my final press conference here at the pentagon briefing room. there are moments when i thought i was part of the last act of an italian opera. you're not sure exactly when it would end, and when the fat lady would sing. >> for now the only certainty is much more congressional uncertainty. joy, does leon panetta need a shirt that says "i survived a chuck hagel filibuster and all i got was this lousy t-shirt?" just when he thinks it can't get worse, it's actually seemingly gotten worse. >> this is insane. i mean, last night i went through, and i was looking at the george w. bush cabinet nominations. none of which were filibustered. just for fun. just because i knew we were talking about i
he tells "foreign policy magazine" my position right now is that i want an answer to the question. that question totally unrelated to chuck hagel as defense secretary is what president obama was doing during the benghazi attack. hagel remains in limbo, as does defense secretary leon panetta, who isn't exactly sure when he will be able to return to his california walnut groves. >> this is, i believe, my final press conference here at the pentagon briefing room. there are moments...
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>> i think it is legitimate that they have questions about some foreign policy decisions he has made in the past. i think particularly senator cruz and others went too far in applying as a consquence that somehow he is dangerous to the united states. he won the election to decide who wants to be secretary of defense. >> what do you think was behind a lot of that? >> i think it had a lot to do with a sort of neoconservative movement who are very angry to senator hagel about the surge and critical comments he made and has to do with a number of conservative jewish americans who are concerned about his jews on israel. i think they came together and made a hot political issue with it. i am pleased that they will not hold the nomination up because we don't have a secretary of defense right now. it is a very bad impression to filibuster a nominee for secretary of defense because you disagree with his foreign policy conclusions. >> the administration's policy on drone attacks on suspected terrorists has been under a great deal of scrutiny. now there is new attention on the use of drones dom
>> i think it is legitimate that they have questions about some foreign policy decisions he has made in the past. i think particularly senator cruz and others went too far in applying as a consquence that somehow he is dangerous to the united states. he won the election to decide who wants to be secretary of defense. >> what do you think was behind a lot of that? >> i think it had a lot to do with a sort of neoconservative movement who are very angry to senator hagel about the...
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>> dick cheney, by the way, had choice words for the president's foreign policy team. i'm not sure i agree with that. in "the new york times," a great must-read, quietly killing a consumer watchdog. it's how the republicans are just doing everything they can not to have the consumer financial protection bureau that was created by elizabeth warren under president obama actually function because it would keep them, quite frankly, from being able to get their money from all their donors on wall street. and they do not want to lose the people who helped them out. so they want to make sure that the consumer suffers so that they can gain politically. it's a good one. take a look at it. coming up -- >> we're also going to talk about nancy pelosi saying we don't have a spending problem, and the problem with medicare is not medicare. we've got a lot to talk about straight ahead. >> gail collins of "the new york times" joins us straight ahead. >> she's got a great column. >> i love it. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot
>> dick cheney, by the way, had choice words for the president's foreign policy team. i'm not sure i agree with that. in "the new york times," a great must-read, quietly killing a consumer watchdog. it's how the republicans are just doing everything they can not to have the consumer financial protection bureau that was created by elizabeth warren under president obama actually function because it would keep them, quite frankly, from being able to get their money from all their...
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drone strikes must be consonant with smart foreign policy. this means the strike is only when it is near certainty the target is a highly dangerous terrorist that the strike is likely to succeed and that collateral damage will be minimal and there is no viable alternative. such considerations should rule out signature strikes which target people who are behaving in ways that resemble how terrori terrorists tend to behave. the standards i am arguing for here would lead to fewer drone strikes. there is a danger that policy can be too restrictive makeing impanel what should be difficult but the process that currently exists for authorizing drone attacks lacks sufficient controls especially when the targets are u.s. citizens. >> we spent too much time twisting ourselves in knots saying the terrorists are about to attack the so-called imminent standard, honest answers we never know. we don't know when terrorists are about to strike. we have to have a whole different set of criteria. the department of justice memorandum is really shoddy work. we sh
drone strikes must be consonant with smart foreign policy. this means the strike is only when it is near certainty the target is a highly dangerous terrorist that the strike is likely to succeed and that collateral damage will be minimal and there is no viable alternative. such considerations should rule out signature strikes which target people who are behaving in ways that resemble how terrori terrorists tend to behave. the standards i am arguing for here would lead to fewer drone strikes....
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that maybe changes the shape of our military and deals heavily with our foreign policy, you need someone that can get the trust of the u.s. senate. if you've had someone that's broken a lot of personal connections and has really upset, anger and inflamed a large portion of the u.s. senate, maybe they're not the best choice for the position. >> jimmy, is there anything about this that says, look, this is a weakness on president obama's part? he's unable to get as a second-term president even his cabinet confirmed without this kind of melee. >> no, i think basically its illustrative of where we are in modern politics. i expect these kinds of things from the house. i expect the majority to rule over the minority in the house whether that's democrats or the republicans. that's the way the founding fathers set it up. but the senate was always supposed to be a club of 100, a cozy place. when i worked there, you could have disagreements on the floor. but off the camera, you had staffers, including me, running around, making deals, what do you need? i'll give you this if you give me this. this i
that maybe changes the shape of our military and deals heavily with our foreign policy, you need someone that can get the trust of the u.s. senate. if you've had someone that's broken a lot of personal connections and has really upset, anger and inflamed a large portion of the u.s. senate, maybe they're not the best choice for the position. >> jimmy, is there anything about this that says, look, this is a weakness on president obama's part? he's unable to get as a second-term president...
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going to be there later this week, hagel won't be, meeting with some of america's top allies as the foreign ministers meet at this nato gathering in brussels, and as he is the guy who is going to be implementing the president's policies on afghanistan in particular, their frustration is he won't be part of the conversation. >> frustrating and embarrassing. peter alexander, thank you so much. >>> gun violence remains near the top of the president agenda and not just because of the massacre of innocent children and sandy hook but also the daily routine of shootings across the nation. something the president made reference to in his speech on friday in chicago. >> there was something profound and unique ly heartbreaking and tragic obviously about a group of 6-year-olds being killed, but last year there were 443 murders with a firearm on the streets of this city, and 65 of those victims were 18 and under. so that's the equivalent of a newtown every four months. >> and there was a tragic koda to friday's speech. 18-year-old janay mcfarlane whose sister was present as the president spoke was kill
going to be there later this week, hagel won't be, meeting with some of america's top allies as the foreign ministers meet at this nato gathering in brussels, and as he is the guy who is going to be implementing the president's policies on afghanistan in particular, their frustration is he won't be part of the conversation. >> frustrating and embarrassing. peter alexander, thank you so much. >>> gun violence remains near the top of the president agenda and not just because of the...
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we're fans of chuck, i like chuck, like his foreign policy. he's a realist, not a neo con and he turned in one of the worst performances on capitol hill. i will be the first to admit it. could have been better said the washington redskins when they lost 73-0. could have been better and i think chuck will be the first to admit that. are you going to support him? >> yes, i am. >> why? >> he's real. really real. he's been through war, been on the front line and been wounded. i asked him is there anything you can give me to doubt you wouldn't do anything to defend this country and america. >> you're talking about iran and -- >> i'm talking everything. he gave me a very satisfactory answer. his actions of spoken for that. also on israel. we were concerned about israel and iran. he gave two very strong answers on that. i have no doubt he would do everything he can to protect our country and fight for it and draw basically strong with our allies with israel. i feel comfortable with him and i hope he would be confirmed. >> you think he will be? >> i t
we're fans of chuck, i like chuck, like his foreign policy. he's a realist, not a neo con and he turned in one of the worst performances on capitol hill. i will be the first to admit it. could have been better said the washington redskins when they lost 73-0. could have been better and i think chuck will be the first to admit that. are you going to support him? >> yes, i am. >> why? >> he's real. really real. he's been through war, been on the front line and been wounded. i...
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this trip undoubtedly would help to burnish his foreign policy credentials. 2016 though a long ways away but there will be a lot of attention paid to this trip, craig, because there is so much speculation whether or not rubio is going to throw his hat into the ring in 2016. >> kristen welker frequently draws the short straw, good to see you, thank you. >> reporter: all the tough assignments, thanks, craig. >>> feel like you need a vacation? so do your lawmakers aparentally. thursday republicans blocked voting former nebraska senator chuck hagel into the defense post he's nominated for in president obama's cabinet and yesterday they left town for nine days. joining me now jake sherman, congressional reporter, molly bald, national political reporter at "the atlantic." molly, today's "new york times" california democrat barbara boxer likened the block that republicans like texas senator ted cruz have put on chuck hagel to mccarthyism. what was the point of prolonging this hagel vote until after everyone reconvenes? >> well, i think that republicans started out with some legitimate questions
this trip undoubtedly would help to burnish his foreign policy credentials. 2016 though a long ways away but there will be a lot of attention paid to this trip, craig, because there is so much speculation whether or not rubio is going to throw his hat into the ring in 2016. >> kristen welker frequently draws the short straw, good to see you, thank you. >> reporter: all the tough assignments, thanks, craig. >>> feel like you need a vacation? so do your lawmakers aparentally....
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on foreign policy, america continues to be first in property and safe guarding human rights. the world is a better place when america is the strongest nation on earth. we can't remain powerful if we don't have a economy that can afford it. in the short time i've been in washington, nothing has been more difficult than the choices. the choice is not just between big government or business. what we need is accountable and efficient and effective government that allows small and new businesses to create more middle class jobs. we don't have to raise taxes to avoid the president's devastating cuts to our military. republicans passed a plan that replaced these cuts with responsible spending reforms. in order to balance our budget the choice doesn't have to be higher taxes or dramatic benefit cuts for those in need, instead we should grow our economy so we can create new taxpayers, not new taxes. so our government can afford to help others who truly cannot help themselves. and the truth is every problem can't be solved by the government. many are caused by the moral breakdown in ou
on foreign policy, america continues to be first in property and safe guarding human rights. the world is a better place when america is the strongest nation on earth. we can't remain powerful if we don't have a economy that can afford it. in the short time i've been in washington, nothing has been more difficult than the choices. the choice is not just between big government or business. what we need is accountable and efficient and effective government that allows small and new businesses to...